Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them!

Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them! is a slogan on a T-shirt by Florida company David and Goliath. The slogan is printed next to a cartoon image of a boy running away from five stones flying in his direction.
"People" magazine ran a story on the T-shirt, opening with a quote from a then 10 year-old girl, "I want to make boys feel bad because it's fun." [ [http://www.glennsacks.com/enewsletters/enews_6_2_05.htm 'Guy Trouble: Boys Are Stupid gear has some folks teed off, but creator Todd Goldman is cashing in'.] "People" 6 June, 2005.] (See Schadenfreude.)

In December 2003, [Pat Cangelosi. [http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/News_Online_NOW_Attacks_Sacks_01APR04.htm 'NOW Attacks Sacks, Belittles Campaign Against "Boys are Stupid" Clothing'.] "Canadian Children's Rights Council" 1 April, 2004.] radio-host and masculist Glenn Sacks started a campaign against the T-shirts, on the grounds of misandry. This raised national attention and led to the removal of the shirts from several thousand retail outlets. [Associated Press. [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4099643 'Retailers pull "Boys Are Stupid" products'.] "MSNBC" 29 January, 2004.] [David Crary [http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001847133_stupidboys30.html 'Stores pull "Boys Are Stupid" merchandise'.] "The Seattle Times" 30 January, 2004.]

The debate between Sacks and the clothing designer, Todd Goldman, was covered by hundreds of television and radio stations. More than 300 publications in half a dozen countries ran articles covering the issue. These included "TIME", "Forbes", "The Washington Post", and "The Guardian" in the United Kingdom. [Pat Cangelosi. [http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0204/newswire022604-sacks.htm 'Sacks and 'Boys are Stupid' Designer Mix it up on CNBC'.] "Mens News Daily" 25 February, 2004.]

The phrase may have been a response, or the origin of the phrase (or viceversa): "I am a woman, watch me shop".

The T-shirt and its success

The T-shirt was designed by company founder Todd Goldman, who started David and Goliath in 1999 with "Boys are Smelly" T-shirts. It now features clothes with a variety of slogans, such as "Boys tell lies, poke them in the eyes!" or "The stupid factory, where boys are made". "Boys are stupid ..." has evolved into a successful object for merchandise, which includes all types of clothes, mugs, key chains, posters and other items. In 2005 Goldman published a book with the same title (ISBN 0-7611-3593-6). In 2006, it was translated and published in Russia. [Игорь Лебедев. [http://kot-begemott.livejournal.com/218087.html 'Разницы между мальчиками и собаками нет'.] "Live Journal" 10 August, 2006.]

Goldman claims that the campaign against his company boosted its sales. According to the "Wall Street Journal", the sales volume of David and Goliath was expected to rise to US$ 100 million in 2005, up from US$ 90 million in the previous year.

The controversy and the campaign

Los Angeles based radio host and masculist Glenn Sacks initiated a campaign against the T-shirts in 2003. He claimed that they were part of a general societal mood that stigmatizes and victimizes boys. [Glenn Sacks' blog on the campaign, [http://www.hisside.com/campaign_boys_are.htm Final Update,] 4 March, 2004.] The company says that their shirts are meant only to be humorous.Georgie Binks. [http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/Nat_Post_The_Mean_TShirt_29MAY04.htm 'The mean T-shirt: From the Stupid Factory'.] "The National Post" 29 May, 2004.]

The campaign against the line received support from several masculist groups, such as the National Coalition of Free Men, but also from groups with broader agendas, such as the Southern Poverty Law Center. [Dana Williams. [http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_tol.jsp?id=929 'Clothing Designer Misses Point of 'Girl Power"'.] "Tolerance.org". 23 January, 2004.] Many critics of the T-shirts pointed out that similar slogans directed against girls or ethnic groups would be widely regarded as unacceptable. The Canadian Children's Rights Council termed the slogan hate speech. [Canadian Children's Rights Council. [http://www.canadiancrc.com/Hatred.htm 'Hate Crime Complaint filed with Toronto police'.] "Commentary". 9 March, 2004.] The campaign led to the removal of the shirts by several retailers, including Bon-Macy's, and Claire's, a total of more than 3,000 retail outlets. The slogan has also been criticized by Bernard Goldberg in his book, "100 People Who Are Screwing Up America," where Todd Goldman, the shirts' creator, was listed as number 97.

In a "Boulder Daily Camera" article, ['Sticks and stones: Fashion trend aims for laughs, but raises some eyebrows'. "Boulder Daily Camera" 19 July, 2005.] later condemned by its editorial board, ['Sexism sells: "Boys are stupid" fashion trend not quite innocent'. "Boulder Daily Camera" 22 July, 2005.] Linda Scott, faculty member at University of Illinois, expressed support for the T-shirts as revenge for boys' "bullying". The National Organization for Women (NOW) discounted the issue as unimportant and depicted Sacks as hypocritical, alleging he publicizes anti-women views in his radio broadcasts. [Pat Cangelosi. [http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/News_Online_NOW_Attacks_Sacks_01APR04.htm 'NOW Attacks Sacks, Belittles Campaign Against "Boys are Stupid" Clothing'.] "Canadian Children's Rights Council" 1 April, 2004.] Helen Grieco, Executive Director of NOW California, described Sacks as a "shock-jock radio host". She also said " [At NOW we] don't have time for T-shirt campaigns." [Danna Harman. [http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0331/p16s01-lihc.html 'Bashing boys is, like, not OK'.] "Christian Science Monitor" 31 March, 2004.] Others, like "San Francisco Chronicle" columnist Jane Ganahl ridiculed Sacks' efforts in an article saying, "shut up and get a life, already". [Jane Ganahl. [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/22/LVGPM53D151.DTL 'Single-Minded: Will you please shut up and get a life, already?'.] "San Francisco Chronicle" 22 February 2004.] Rush Limbaugh criticized this approach. [Pat Cangelosi. [http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0204/newswire022604-sacks.htm 'Sacks and 'Boys are Stupid' Designer Mix it up on CNBC'.] "Mens News Daily" 25 February, 2004.] Ganahl argued that the T-shirts are perceived as harmless fun by children and that sexism against women is a far more widespread and substantial problem in United States' society.

Glenn Sacks responded to criticism of the campaign, asserting that the criticism was dismissive of the feelings of boys and that the idea that boys should laugh at the joke at their expense creates a "double bind" for boys. [Glenn Sacks. [http://www.glennsacks.com/why_i_launched.htm 'Why I Launched the Campaign Against "Boys are Stupid" Products'.] "Los Angeles Daily News" 4 February, 2004.]

Endorsements of the campaign

*"Can you imagine if a company put out a line of T-shirts that said, 'Black people are goobers, drop anvils on their heads' or 'Homosexuals are stupid, throw rocks at them'? And can you imagine the San Francisco Chronicle doing a story on how cute these T-shirts are?...Turn it around and imagine shirts suggesting the following: 'Girls lie and will break your heart. Throw rocks at them' or 'Little girls are not soft and cuddly, they are mean and vicious and will destroy you.' Can you imagine a newspaper doing a cute little headline and story on how wonderfully cute little boy fashion has become? I doubt it." — Rush Limbaugh [Pat Cangelosi. [http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0204/newswire022604-sacks.htm 'Sacks and 'Boys are Stupid' Designer Mix it up on CNBC'.] "Mens News Daily" 25 February, 2004.]
*"I want to join hands with my fellow talk show host Glenn Sacks ... I back his campaign against 'Boys are Stupid' shirts ... [the shirts] are symptomatic of a much larger problem ... the denigration of males." — Laura Schlessinger [Glenn Sacks' blog on the campaign, [http://www.hisside.com/campaign_boys_are.htm Final Update,] 4 March, 2004.]
*"The shirts are terrible and are part of a much larger problem in our society — the problem of devaluing males." — Al Rantel
*"The protest campaign launched by radio talk host Glenn Sacks ... [is a good example] of how hate mongering is a lucrative business and the best remedy is to yank away the financial incentive." — Wendy McElroy
*" [The shirts] are really offensive and I'm glad Glenn stood up and did something about it." — Marc Germain
*"As the mother of a boy, I owe Glenn a big thank you for what he's done." — Jenn Jordan, co-host of the Jeff and Jenn Morning Show on WKRQ FM 102 in Cincinnati
*"I'm angry about these shirts ... I wish Glenn well — I thinks he's got a real point here." — Joe Crummey, KABC talk show host

Response from retailers

Many retail outlets responded to the campaign by withdrawing their stock of the shirts from public sale. Several corresponded with Sacks in person. The vice president of public relations for Universal Studios made a public statement in response to the campaign.cquote

Dapy's, a store operated by our company, offers various lines of popular apparel. It has recently come to Senior Management's attention that we have inadvertently offered some items from one of these lines that contain offensive messages.

The T-shirts have been taken off the store's shelves immediately and will no longer be sold at Dapy's or at any other location owned by our company. Our company does not condone any messages of intolerance to any group within our society and we regret having allowed this incident to occur. [Glenn Sacks' blog on the campaign, [http://www.hisside.com/campaign_boys_are.htm Final Update,] 4 March, 2004.]

In Canada, the complaints by the Canadian Children's Rights Council resulted in numerous major retail chain stores stopping their sales of the merchandise. The Bay, Canada's oldest retailer and one of the largest retailers in Canada, was persuaded by the Canadian Children's Rights Council not only to discontinue selling the merchandise, but to not purchase anything in the future from the company manufacturing the T-shirts and merchandise. Wal-Mart Canada was also contacted and refused to carry any more of these products.Fact|date=May 2008

The televised debate

Sacks and Goldman were invited to air their debate on the Consumer News and Business Channel.

The televised debate took place on the February 24, 2004, hosted by Dylan Ratigan. [Pat Cangelosi. [http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0204/newswire022604-sacks.htm 'Sacks and 'Boys are Stupid' Designer Mix it up on CNBC'.] "Mens News Daily" 25 February, 2004.] Ratigan opened the show by displaying pictures of the T-shirts and asking Sacks, "what's the issue? They're having a good time here." Sacks, a former high school teacher, replied "yes, it's humor, but it's adult humor being played out on little boys. Twelve year-old boys don't get the humor, but they feel the insult."

Goldman was asked if he felt an "obligation to consider the impact" of the products on young boys. He replied, "no" but claimed, "we sell [to] 16, 17, 18 year-olds, you know, college students." Sacks objected that Goldman had been quoted saying the products were his "top selling junior line."

Goldman pointed out that his company sells many "positive shirts, including ones with the slogans 'It's all about me' and 'Chicks Rule!'" He noted that he was very pleased with the extra publicity Sacks' campaign had generated, and that sales had increased. Ratigan, as host, asked Sacks if he thought this meant his campaign had backfired. Sacks said, "we've knocked 'Boys are Stupid' products out of 3,500 stores — that has to have an effect."

Goldman claimed his products had only lost "five percent" of their retail outlets. Ratigan, clearly dubious pressed him further on the point and Goldman conceded, "yes I guess it has been over 3,000." Ratigan replied, "Todd, that's an awful lot of retail stores."

Sacks took the opportunity to note, "I can't even find the 'Boys are Stupid' products anywhere. I can't continue the campaign because we can't even find anyone who still has the stuff." Goldman replied, "you need to get out more." [Glenn Sacks' blog on the campaign, [http://www.hisside.com/campaign_boys_are.htm Final Update,] 4 March, 2004.] Ratigan closed the show, offering Goldman, "congratulations on the success of your business."

Iconic status in gender debates

The "Boys are stupid ..." theme has become an icon in the ongoing debates regarding gender issues.

"The age-old gender war is being sold to our children in new, and some argue, insidious ways," wrote Jeffrey Zaslow for "The New York Times". [Jeffrey Zaslow. [http://www.careerjournal.com/columnists/movingon/20050422-movingon.html 'Evaluating the Latest Twist In the Battle of the Sexes'.] "The Wall Street Journal Online" 22 April, 2005.] "If the kiddies want to volunteer for trench duty in fruitless gender wars when they turn 18, that's their business," wrote Clay Evans, concerned to see under-18s have a less adversarial introduction to learning to relate to the opposite sex. [Clay Evans. [http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/opinion_columnists/article/0,1713,BDC_2490_3964393,00.html Recruiting Kids into Gender Wars'.] "Daily Camera" 30 July, 2005.] Emily Garringer also makes reference to the famous T-shirt in the course of her analyses of male and female habits in dating practices. [Emily Garringer [http://media.www.iowastatedaily.com/media/storage/paper818/news/2006/12/07/Opinion/Girls.Vs.Boys.Boys.Are.Stupid.Throw.Rocks.At.Them-2526799.shtml 'Girls vs. Boys: Boys are stupid - throw rocks at them'.] "Iowa State Daily" 7 December, 2006.]

Avril Lavigne has shown that she acknowledges the shirt, and apparently, thinks that it is humorous. On a radio show, when asked what she thought about boys, she replied suddenly, "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them!" [Avril Lavigne quotes at [http://www.amiright.com/quotes/lavigneavril.shtml AmIRight.com] ] Verify credibility|date=August 2008 This made the surrounding women around her, as well as the male radio-cast of men, and the male radioshow host, all laugh and agree with her.Fact|date=August 2008

However, Goldman himself says that his T-shirts have nothing to do with the girl-power movement, "I'm a guy. I couldn't give a rat's ass about girl empowerment. Our market is teenage girls. I know what sells."

ee also

*Men's rights
*Misandry

References

External links

* [http://www.davidandgoliathtees.com David and Goliath Incorporated]
* Leslie Knopp. [http://www.komotv.com/news/archive/4112086.html 'Does This T-Shirt Send The Right Message?'.] "KOMOTV" 31 August, 2006.
* Clay Evans. [http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/opinion_columnists/article/0,1713,BDC_2490_3964393,00.html Recruiting Kids into Gender Wars'.] "Daily Camera" 30 July, 2005.
* Jeffrey Zaslow. [http://www.careerjournal.com/columnists/movingon/20050422-movingon.html 'Evaluating the Latest Twist In the Battle of the Sexes'.] "The Wall Street Journal Online" 22 April, 2005.
* Sharon Fink. [http://www.sptimes.com/2004/06/28/Business/His_career_fits_him_t.shtml 'His career fits him to a T'.] "St Petersburg Times" 28 June, 2004.
* Georgie Binks. [http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/Nat_Post_The_Mean_TShirt_29MAY04.htm 'The mean T-shirt: From the Stupid Factory'.] "The National Post" 29 May, 2004.
* Georgie Binks. [http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_binks/20040521.html 'Women don't throw rocks at men'.] "CBC News Viewpoint" 21 May, 2004.
* Danna Harman. [http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0331/p16s01-lihc.html 'Bashing boys is, like, not OK'.] "Christian Science Monitor" 31 March, 2004.
* Canadian Children's Rights Council. [http://www.canadiancrc.com/Hatred.htm 'Hate Crime Complaint filed with Toronto police'.] "Commentary". 9 March, 2004
* Glenn Sacks' blog on the campaign, [http://www.hisside.com/campaign_boys_are.htm Final Update,] 4 March, 2004.
* Pat Cangelosi. [http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0204/newswire022604-sacks.htm 'Sacks and 'Boys are Stupid' Designer Mix it up on CNBC'.] "Mens News Daily" 25 February, 2004.
* Glenn Sacks. [http://www.glennsacks.com/why_i_launched.htm 'Why I Launched the Campaign Against "Boys are Stupid" Products'.] "Los Angeles Daily News" 4 February, 2004.
* MND Newswire. [http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0104/newswire013004.htm 'Radio Campaign Knocks Anti-Boy Products Out of 3,000 Retail Stores'.] "Mens News Daily" 30 January, 2004.
* David Crary [http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001847133_stupidboys30.html 'Stores pull "Boys Are Stupid" merchandise'.] "The Seattle Times" 30 January, 2004.
* Associated Press. [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4099643 'Retailers pull "Boys Are Stupid" products'.] "MSNBC" 29 January, 2004.
* Dana Williams. [http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_tol.jsp?id=929 'Clothing Designer Misses Point of 'Girl Power"'.] "Tolerance.org". 23 January, 2004.
* Brian Carnell. [http://www.equityfeminism.com/archives/years/2004/000005.html 'Clothing Retailers Are Stupid -- Throw Glenn Sacks at Them'.] "Equity Feminism.com" 18 January, 2004.
* Dean Esmay. [http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/005893.html 'Boys Are Stupid, Throw Rocks At Them'.] "Dean's World" 6 January 2004.
* Wendy McElroy. [http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/1223.html 'Christmas in a WarZone'.] "ifeminists.com" 23 December, 2003.
* Leslie Knopp. [http://www.komotv.com/news/archive/4112086.html?video=YHI&t=a 'Does This T-Shirt Send The Right Message?'.] "KOMOTV" 8 December, 2003. Television broadcast video link.
* Larry Brentro. [http://www.esrnational.org/sp/th/ESRForumSummer2001.pdf 'Lessons from Research on Ridicule'.] "Educators for Social Responsibility Forum" 18 (2001): 1.

Other press

Yaakov Watkins. 'Boys: Trashing them is about Self-esteem?' "Boulder Daily Camera" 22 July, 2005.


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